Fantastic Find: The Irish DNA Registry on Facebook

If you have Irish roots, have done DNA testing for your genealogy and uploaded the results to GEDMatch, this closed Facebook group could be very helpful.

[From their Facebook page]

Here's how they describe themselves:

We are a group to assist you with researching those links with DNA matches who share Irish Ancestry. We have a comparison tool called Matchbox which allows you to compare our database of member against your GEDMatch one to many match data.

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Fantastic Find: "Finally! A Gedmatch Admixture Guide!" by Genealogical Musings blog

My Eurogenes K13 piechart result.  Surprise, I'm of European ancestry! lol

For whatever reason, one of my top posts is "New Admixture Test on GEDmatch: PuntDNAL K15" from back in 2015.  DNA tests are getting more popular all the time, particularly for finding out one's ethnicity estimates, but how can you go further in your interpretation of them?

Thanks to a mention on the GEDmatch forum, I found a great guide (in two parts) at Genealogical Musings (not to be confused with Genea-Musings) called "Finally!  A Gedmatch Admixture Guide!" for anyone willing to dive in and use GEDmatch

Parts 1 and 2:

For those unaware, Gedmatch.com is a website where you can upload your raw DNA data for further analysis and matching with people from other companies who have also upload their data.

A Gedmatch Admixture Guide: Parts 3 and 4

Continuing on from Parts 1 and 2 where I covered the different projects and calculators available for Admixture Proportions and what Oracle is and how to read it, I've had some requests to cover the other viewing options available like Admixture Proportions by Chromosome and Chromosome Painting.

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My Dad's Perplexing Minor Native American DNA: Percentage by Chromosome

Ugh, the less than 1 percent Native American is so frustrating.  Why is it there??

There are some on GEDmatch who consider Eurogenes K36 as a good indicator of any real Native American DNA.  My father has an infuriatingly small amount of such DNA on this test, as with most of the ethnicity tests.

Eurogenes K36 as Amerindian 0.23%

I decided today to check out where Native American DNA resides by Chromosome (which you can conveniently do on GEDmatch).

Eurogenes K36 by Chromosome over 1 percent
Chromosome 4 (2.7%)
Chromosome 12 (2.7%)
Chromosome 18 (1.9%)

compared to other readings:

Eurogenes K13 by Chromosome over 1 percent
Chromosome 4 (1.5%)
Chromosome 6 (3.6%)
Chromosome 9 (1.4%)
Chromosome 12 (4.3%)
Chromosome 15 (1.5%)

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 by Chromosome over 1 percent
Chromosome 2 (2%)
Chromosome 6 (2.7%)
Chromosome 12 (3.6%)
Chromosome 15 (1.5%)

Dodecad World 9 by Chromosome over 1 percent
Chromosome 1 (1.3%)
Chromosome 2 (1.5%)
Chromosome 4 (2.4%)
Chromosome 6 (3.8%)
Chromosome 8 (1.7%)
Chromosome 12 (6.2%)
Chromosome 18 (2.3%)
Chromosome 22 (1.4%)

MDLP World-22 by Chromosome over 1 percent (combined Mesoamerican/Arctic-American/South-America Amerind)
Chromosome 1 (1.8%)
Chromosome 4 (1.7%)
Chromosome 6 (1.5%)
Chromosome 7 (4.0%)
Chromosome 12 (3.7%)
Chromosome 15 (4.1%)
Chromosome 16 (1.5%)
Chromosome 18 (2.6%)
Chromosome 22 (2.1%)

puntDNAL K15 by Chromosome over 1 percent
Chromosome 2 (1.2%)
Chromosome 6 (1.5%)
Chromosome 12 (1.3%)
Chromosome 18 (3.9%)
Chromosome 22 (2.5%)

Eurasia K14 by Chromosome over 1 percent (combined N Amerindian/S Amerindian)
Chromosome 2 (2.2%)
Chromosome 4 (3.4%)
Chromosome 5 (4.5%)
Chromosome 6 (1.1%)
Chromosome 8 (4.2%)
Chromosome 9 (4.2%)
Chromosome 11 (7.4%)
Chromosome 12 (4.8%)
Chromosome 13 (6.5%)
Chromosome 14 (2.9%)
Chromosome 16 (2.5%)
Chromosome 17 (7.8%)
Chromosome 18 (9.7%)
Chromosome 19 (10%)

I notice that Chromosome 12 always has some Native American.  Chromosomes 6 and 18 usually come up as well.  I wonder what I can now do with that information?



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Free Saturday Night Webinar from Legacy Family Tree: "Watch Geoff Live: GEDmatch.com"

How cool is this??  I would love to have an expert guide me through my GEDmatch results.

After the incredible findings of his first encounter with genetic genealogy, Geoff [Rasmussen] is ready to take his DNA research to the next level. He wants YOU – the live webinar audience – to be there with him as he explores GEDmatch.com for the first time.

On hand to guide, interpret and explain what Geoff discovers will be DNA expert, webinar presenter, and yourDNAguide.com’s Diahan Southard. The result will be a live and unscripted session giving DNA neophyte researchers (like Geoff) a first-hand look at what to expect from one of DNA’s key tools – GEDmatch.com.

This webinar is free through July 12.  I recommend subscribing to this site for full access to all their amazing, affordable genealogy webinars.

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I'm Taking the Family Tree University "Genetic Genealogy 201" Starting Next Week

This course is offered by Family Tree University.

This is the syllabus summary.

This is a 4 week course but it is at your own pace.  I am especially interested in their Lesson 3 that appears to focus on using GEDmatch.





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New Admixture Test on GEDmatch: PuntDNAL K15

I have seen PuntDNAL for a while, but it seemed to be tailored for those of mostly African ancestry so it didn't seem relevant to my research, but I came across this new one last week.  I ran my parents and me through the calculator, and I am a bit unsure what to make of the results.  I'd say Eurogenes is probably the more accurate test for us from what I know of my parents' ancestry.

The description of the test:

This calculator focuses primarily on Africa (particularly East Africa), West Asia, and Europe. If you are mostly African, West Asian, or European, then you will find it useful and Accurate. It will be periodically updated as new data becomes available. Questions and comments about this calculator should be directed to Abdullahi Warsame.

Thank you to Abdullahi for making this available!

For comparison, this is my father's AncestryDNA admixture estimate:

Native American less than 1%

Great Britain 62%

Scandinavia 33%

Ireland 2%

Europe West 2%

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 55.86
2 Mediterranean 29.8
3 Caucasian 8.51
4 Beringian         1.94
5 SW_Asian 1.85
6 S_Indian         0.88
7 W_African 0.86
8 Amerindian 0.24
9 Omo_River 0.05
10 Siberian         0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 English 2.39
2 Orcadian 2.52
3 Irish         2.99
4 Scottish 3.28
5 North_German 3.67
6 Utahn_White 4.11
7 Norwegian 4.43
8 Austrian         4.54
9 South_German 4.58
10 Slovenian         4.88
11 Hungarian 5.17
12 Croatian         6.28
13 Swedish         6.88
14 French         7.82
15 Serbian         9.61
16 Polish        10.24
17 Bosnian        14.19
18 Macedonian 15.2
19 Romanian 16.25
20 Belarusian 16.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.9% English + 3.1% West_Greenlander @ 0.95
2 98.1% English + 1.9% East_Greenlander @ 0.97
3 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% East_Greenlander @ 1.39
4 97% Orcadian + 3% West_Greenlander @ 1.44
5 97.6% Scottish + 2.4% East_Greenlander @ 1.73
6 96.2% Scottish + 3.8% West_Greenlander @ 1.9
7 98.3% English + 1.7% Koryak @ 1.99
8 98.6% English + 1.4% African_American @ 2.01
9 98.8% English + 1.2% Igbo @ 2.02
10 98.7% English + 1.3% Bamoun @ 2.02
11 98.8% English + 1.2% Bambaran @ 2.02
12 98.8% English + 1.2% Hausa @ 2.02
13 98.8% English + 1.2% Brong @ 2.02
14 98.7% English + 1.3% NE_Bantu @ 2.02
15 98.8% English + 1.2% Mandinka @ 2.03
16 51% Norwegian + 49% South_German @ 2.03
17 98.6% English + 1.4% Luhya @ 2.03
18 98.9% English + 1.1% Yoruban @ 2.03
19 98.7% English + 1.3% SA_Bantu @ 2.03
20 98.6% English + 1.4% Xhosa @ 2.04


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 55.86
2 Mediterranean 29.80
3 Caucasian 8.51
4 Beringian         1.94
5 SW_Asian 1.85


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 English @ 2.276304
2 Orcadian @ 2.459624
3 Irish @ 3.017227
4 Scottish @ 3.364615
5 North_German @ 3.864859
6 Utahn_White @ 4.328273
7 Austrian @ 4.772326
8 Norwegian @ 4.782928
9 South_German @ 4.904590
10 Slovenian @ 5.199419
11 Hungarian @ 5.541170
12 Croatian @ 6.847998
13 Swedish @ 7.499986
14 French @ 8.523516
15 Serbian @ 10.631078
16 Polish @ 11.224601
17 Bosnian @ 15.741078
18 Macedonian @ 16.862701
19 Romanian @ 18.006475
20 Russian @ 18.122931

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% South_German @ 1.913835


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Irish +25% French @ 1.906923


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Irish + French @ 1.906923
2 Norwegian + Norwegian + South_German + South_German @ 1.913835
3 Norwegian + North_German + Orcadian + French @ 1.932284
4 Polish + Norwegian + French + French @ 1.936818
5 Norwegian + North_German + English + French @ 1.954294
6 Norwegian + Norwegian + Utahn_White + South_German @ 1.964432
7 Norwegian + North_German + South_German + South_German @ 1.972860
8 Norwegian + North_German + Irish + French @ 1.987115
9 Swedish + Norwegian + South_German + French @ 1.990007
10 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + French @ 1.991178
11 Norwegian + North_German + Utahn_White + South_German @ 1.992937
12 Norwegian + Norwegian + Hungarian + French @ 1.998845
13 Norwegian + Norwegian + Austrian + French @ 2.004083
14 Norwegian + North_German + North_German + French @ 2.004564
15 Polish + Swedish + French + French @ 2.007750
16 Belarusian + English + French + French @ 2.008666
17 Norwegian + Norwegian + Slovenian + French @ 2.008670
18 Polish + North_German + South_German + French @ 2.012599
19 Norwegian + Scottish + Slovenian + French @ 2.013311
20 Norwegian + Norwegian + English + French @ 2.014159



For comparison, this is my mother's AncestryDNA admixture estimate:
Great Britain 65%
Iberian Peninsula         10%
Europe West 8%
Ireland 7%
Scandinavia 7%
Caucasus          3%

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 52.29
2 Mediterranean 30.92
3 Caucasian 10.74
4 SW_Asian 2.34
5 S_Indian         1.06
6 Omo_River 0.92
7 Beringian         0.8
8 Horn_Of_Africa 0.52
9 Amerindian 0.17
10 Oceanian         0.14
11 S_African 0.08
12 Wht_Nile_River 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_German 2.05
2 Utahn_White 2.33
3 Irish 4.3
4 English 4.53
5 French 4.72
6 Croatian 4.83
7 Orcadian 5
8 Hungarian 5.22
9 Austrian 5.45
10 Serbian 5.79
11 Slovenian 5.82
12 Scottish 6.26
13 North_German 6.59
14 Norwegian 7.95
15 Swedish 10.34
16 Bosnian 10.51
17 Macedonian 11.23
18 Romanian 12.26
19 Bulgarian 12.98
20 Polish 13.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% French + 44.5% Slovenian @ 1.15
2 73.7% South_German + 26.3% Croatian @ 1.18
3 52.7% French + 47.3% Hungarian @ 1.24
4 72% North_German + 28% Italian @ 1.32
5 72.1% English + 27.9% Macedonian @ 1.35
6 67.9% Scottish + 32.1% Bulgarian @ 1.36
7 75.4% Norwegian + 24.6% Tuscan @ 1.36
8 96.1% Utahn_White + 3.9% Tadjik @ 1.4
9 77.1% South_German + 22.9% Hungarian @ 1.4
10 75% English + 25% Bulgarian @ 1.41
11 64.6% Scottish + 35.4% Macedonian @ 1.42
12 92.6% English + 7.4% Assyrian @ 1.44
13 85.1% English + 14.9% Greek_Central @ 1.45
14 60.9% Norwegian + 39.1% Romanian @ 1.46
15 97.3% Utahn_White + 2.7% Makrani @ 1.46
16 91.6% English + 8.4% Turk_Kayseri @ 1.47
17 83.7% English + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.47
18 72.9% Orcadian + 27.1% Bulgarian @ 1.47
19 97.4% Utahn_White + 2.6% Brahui @ 1.47
20 66.7% Scottish + 33.3% Romanian @ 1.48



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 52.29
2 Mediterranean 30.92
3 Caucasian 10.74
4 SW_Asian 2.34
5 S_Indian         1.06


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_German @ 2.128099
2 Utahn_White @ 2.460671
3 Irish @ 4.703682
4 English @ 4.990640
5 French @ 5.126281
6 Croatian @ 5.222383
7 Orcadian @ 5.522955
8 Hungarian @ 5.645545
9 Austrian @ 5.921393
10 Slovenian @ 6.341358
11 Serbian @ 6.418254
12 Scottish @ 6.928301
13 North_German @ 7.258951
14 Norwegian @ 8.806544
15 Swedish @ 11.442522
16 Bosnian @ 11.654517
17 Macedonian @ 12.465020
18 Romanian @ 13.596674
19 Bulgarian @ 14.398587
20 Polish @ 15.026039

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% French @ 1.217426


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +25% French +25% Macedonian @ 1.153106


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + South_German + South_German + Serbian @ 0.999414
2 North_German + South_German + French + Serbian @ 1.022581
3 North_German + Utahn_White + French + Serbian @ 1.057597
4 Norwegian + North_German + French + Macedonian @ 1.069893
5 English + South_German + South_German + Serbian @ 1.084497
6 North_German + Croatian + French + French @ 1.090698
7 Irish + Croatian + French + French @ 1.102772
8 Croatian + South_German + South_German + South_German @ 1.120867
9 Irish + South_German + South_German + Serbian @ 1.121346
10 Swedish + Irish + French + Macedonian @ 1.123925
11 Slovenian + Croatian + French + French @ 1.130654
12 Orcadian + Irish + French + Serbian @ 1.131846
13 Irish + Croatian + South_German + French @ 1.132046
14 English + Irish + French + Serbian @ 1.135169
15 Slovenian + Hungarian + French + French @ 1.137533
16 North_German + South_German + South_German + Serbian @ 1.142156
17 Orcadian + Utahn_White + South_German + Serbian @ 1.142925
18 Norwegian + Irish + South_German + Romanian @ 1.144317
19 Scottish + North_German + South_German + Bulgarian @ 1.145327
20 Norwegian + South_German + French + Serbian @ 1.150340



For comparison, this is my AncestryDNA admixture estimate:
Great Britain 71%
Scandinavia 17%
Europe West 9%
Europe East          less than 1%
Ireland less than 1%
Caucasus         less than 1%

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 53.48
2 Mediterranean 30.74
3 Caucasian 10.28
4 SW_Asian 1.5
5 Beringian         1.44
6 S_Indian         1.11
7 S_African 0.96
8 Omo_River 0.26
9 Siberian         0.1
10 Oceanian         0.08
11 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Utahn_White 2.59
2 South_German 2.69
3 Irish 3.66
4 English 3.74
5 Orcadian 4.26
6 Hungarian 5.21
7 Scottish 5.29
8 Austrian 5.31
9 Croatian 5.33
10 Slovenian 5.52
11 French 5.63
12 North_German 5.68
13 Norwegian 6.94
14 Serbian 7.14
15 Swedish 9.34
16 Bosnian 11.81
17 Macedonian 12.61
18 Polish 12.67
19 Romanian 13.65
20 Bulgarian 14.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.6% Utahn_White + 2.4% West_Greenlander @ 1.97
2 74.2% South_German + 25.8% Slovenian @ 2
3 63.2% Irish + 36.8% French @ 2.01
4 63.4% South_German + 36.6% Irish @ 2.03
5 98.6% Utahn_White + 1.4% East_Greenlander @ 2.03
6 73.4% South_German + 26.6% Hungarian @ 2.05
7 91.7% South_German + 8.3% Russian @ 2.08
8 75.6% Utahn_White + 24.4% Hungarian @ 2.08
9 92% South_German + 8% Karelian @ 2.08
10 75.7% South_German + 24.3% North_German @ 2.09
11 93.9% English + 6.1% Turk_Kayseri @ 2.1
12 94.4% English + 5.6% Turk_Istanbul @ 2.1
13 92% South_German + 8% Belarusian @ 2.13
14 76.9% Utahn_White + 23.1% Croatian @ 2.14
15 94.9% English + 5.1% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.14
16 94.6% English + 5.4% Azerbaijani @ 2.14
17 92.8% South_German + 7.2% Finnish @ 2.14
18 50.2% French + 49.8% North_German @ 2.15
19 50.6% Slovenian + 49.4% French @ 2.15
20 77.9% Utahn_White + 22.1% Slovenian @ 2.15



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 53.48
2 Mediterranean 30.74
3 Caucasian 10.28
4 SW_Asian 1.50
5 Beringian         1.44
6 S_Indian         1.11


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utahn_White @ 2.567060
2 South_German @ 2.729956
3 Irish @ 3.845506
4 English @ 3.982403
5 Orcadian @ 4.574748
6 Hungarian @ 5.549877
7 Austrian @ 5.658752
8 Croatian @ 5.715500
9 Scottish @ 5.735458
10 Slovenian @ 5.910424
11 French @ 6.083564
12 North_German @ 6.156975
13 Norwegian @ 7.626692
14 Serbian @ 7.838583
15 Swedish @ 10.276428
16 Bosnian @ 13.063908
17 Polish @ 13.941177
18 Macedonian @ 13.961777
19 Romanian @ 15.095651
20 Bulgarian @ 15.898861

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% South_German @ 2.045060


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +25% French +25% Serbian @ 1.847615


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Scottish + North_German + French + Serbian @ 1.779079
2 North_German + Slovenian + French + French @ 1.794362
3 Norwegian + English + French + Serbian @ 1.805328
4 Swedish + Croatian + French + French @ 1.818229
5 North_German + Croatian + South_German + French @ 1.820063
6 Irish + Slovenian + South_German + French @ 1.821359
7 Scottish + Croatian + South_German + French @ 1.822314
8 Norwegian + Irish + French + Serbian @ 1.823437
9 Norwegian + Scottish + French + Serbian @ 1.823824
10 Norwegian + Utahn_White + South_German + Serbian @ 1.824926
11 Norwegian + Croatian + South_German + French @ 1.831322
12 North_German + Utahn_White + Croatian + French @ 1.833168
13 Irish + Hungarian + Utahn_White + French @ 1.836367
14 Norwegian + Utahn_White + Utahn_White + Serbian @ 1.840035
15 Swedish + Utahn_White + French + Serbian @ 1.840461
16 Scottish + Utahn_White + Croatian + French @ 1.844574
17 Scottish + Scottish + French + Serbian @ 1.847615
18 Norwegian + Orcadian + French + Serbian @ 1.850348
19 Scottish + Hungarian + South_German + French @ 1.850951
20 Irish + Hungarian + South_German + French @ 1.852806




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Fantastic Find: Heather Collins' Video Series on Genetic Genealogy

"Introduction to using GEDmatch.com. Understanding the One-to-Many list, the One-to-One Comparison, and the Admixture utilities."

This video, "Genetic Genealogy for Beginners: Part 3" by Heather Collins, a blogger at Young & Savvy Genealogists and a fellow GEDmatch enthusiast, is possibly my favorite yet on using GEDmatch.  I'm shocked at how few views this video has gotten.


Other videos in the series:

"Thinking about taking a DNA test as part of your genealogy research? There are some things you need to know first. SNPs, centimorgans, and phasing are where we'll begin."

"A continuing introduction to genetic genealogy and DNA testing. Covers an introduction to chromosome browsers, false matches, and the matching criteria of 23&Me, Family Tree DNA, and AncestryDNA."

Here and here for my previous blog posts on videos made about using GEDmatch.








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Fantastic Find: GEDmatch Chit Chat at The In-Depth Genealogist (theindepthgenealogist.com)

Click here for Home page of The In-Depth Genealogist

Presented by Shannon Combs-Bennett for The In-Depth Genealogist ("a woman owned publishing company that provides educational resources for the genealogical community"), this 45-minute video is about about GEDmatch.

Because GEDmatch is insanely awesome yet presents a steep learning curve, I take every opportunity to watch people who actually understand GEDmatch so that I can reinforce my current (if rather pathetic) understanding of the site and learn new ways to use the tools.




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GEDmatch is Back Up!

After being down at least a week, GEDmatch is back up and running!  Yay!



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Eurogenes K13 for My Parents: Admixture vs Phased Admixture

Mom's phased Eurogenes K13

Mom's regular Eurogenes K13

Since there are so many ways to cut, slice, and dice DNA results on GEDmatch, I thought I'd start with phasing, which allows you to estimate what a parent's ethnicity would be estimated at, given your own DNA and your other parent's DNA.  

I'm mostly interested in how much of a difference there is.  I'm not seeing any wild variation between using someone's DNA vs estimating what their estimate would be.  It's funny, because they are all estimates, really.

Dad's regular Eurogenes K13

Dad's phased Eurogenes K13

I'm a mix of my parents, of course:

My own Eurogenes K13

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A Video on Understanding GEDmatch Basics

And now for something completely different. Here's a "Sculpture of DNA, made out of shopping carts." Wikipedia - Source: from geograph.org.uk, Author: Keith Edkins.

"...most ancestry.com DNA testers suffer severe shock on being presented with the no nonsense screens at GEDmatch."

Haha, include me in that bunch.  Truer words were never spoken!

Hat tip to Kitty Cooper's Blog for posting molecular biologist/genealogist Angie Bush's video on understanding some basics on using GEDmatch utilities for genetic genealogy.  It's worth a look if you are into this stuff.




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What's the Same, What is Different? My Dad's DNA Ethnicity Estimates

AncestryDNA

FTDNA

Eurogenes K13

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15

Eurogenes K9

Eurogenes JTest

Dodecad World9

Dodecad V3

Dad is northern European, mostly Scandinavian and British Isles.

FTDNA estimates about 6% Ashkenazi Jewish, a result I don't think I'm seeing in the other ethnicity estimates.  FTDNA centers that population in Poland.  The only known Polish ancestor I have is Solomon Joseph Hartley, who I thought was probably of Dutch Mennonite extraction, but who knows, maybe he was also Jewish?  Solomon Joseph is not unheard of in English/Anglo naming, but it seems much more prevalent in Jewish names.  Just something to think about.  I've discussed Solomon in the past here, here, and here.

All the tests that include Native American as a possible group have my dad with some small (~1%) amount.  The most overt NA I've seen is in his World9 Oracle:

East Greenland?  But why?  We have neither story or paper trail evidence of this.  I seem to be in the same confusion boat as the decidedly Dutch genealogist and blogger Yvette Hoitink, as she wrote in her post "My Native American DNA. Say what?"  Or as The Legal Genealogist blogger Judy Russell's say: "Admixture: not soup yet."


I used Evernote for the screenshots.


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Playing Around with GEDmatch and Ancient DNA

Roberta Estes and her readers at DNAeXplained are having wild fun comparing their DNA to ancient DNA samples uploaded to GEDmatch* by Felix Chandrakamur.  I couldn't resist joining in the fun.

Following her example, I tweaked the Minimum Threshold and the Minimum segment cM sizes (down to 1cM unless otherwise stated) to see if I matched any of the samples.  Those numbers are tweaked to see if there are any DNA matches.  I don't usually mess with GEDmatch's default 700 SNP/7cM, but this DNA is so old there would be no other way to compare.

No one knows yet if these results are meaningful or not, but if people who write about this stuff during the day and lay awake at night obsessing about it are going to compare their DNA to ancient remains, so shall I.

I will compare each ancient DNA sample with me and my parents only at the highest values found (we share much more on each ancient DNA sample at values below).  I just did autosomal comparisons, not X-chromosome.


Clovis Anzick-1 refers to the remains of a toddler who died and was buried in Wilsall, Park, Montana about 12,600 years ago.  This child was a member of the population from which all modern Native Americans descend, particularly those from Mexico and south of Mexico.  NOTE: Since first posting this, the kit number changed to F999919.

Comparing (Christine) and F999913 (Clovis Anzick-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 400 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 200 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location            End Location  Centimorgans (cM)                   SNPs
1 159281892               161769805                   4.1                                     406
10 103388824             106662110                   1.6                                     419
Largest segment = 4.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 5.7 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999913 (Clovis Anzick-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 350 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 175 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM)          SNPs
6 104470668 107607740                    4.7                                 354
10 111327250 114051969                    2.6                                 362
Largest segment = 4.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 7.3 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999913 (Clovis Anzick-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 350 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 175 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 153063519 155385045 2.3 384
2 88322784 99543207 1.6 374
Largest segment = 2.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 3.9 cM

My Chromosome 1 match is similar to my mom, and my Chromosome 10 match is similar to my dad. Does this point to us being part Native American?  Who knows.


Palaeo-Eskimo 2000 BC is the DNA from a man (now dubbed "Inuk") who died about 4,000 years ago along the shore of Disco Bay in Greenland.

Comparing (Christine) and F999906 (Palaeo-Eskimo 2000 BC)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 218789542 219868474 1.8 239
Largest segment = 1.8 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.8 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999906 (Palaeo-Eskimo 2000 BC)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
6 42773468 43799851 2.5 229
12 112727416 113301703 1.1 208
19 15027162 15712229 1.1 265
22 20458678 21923051 3.9 215
Largest segment = 3.9 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 8.5 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999906 (Palaeo-Eskimo 2000 BC)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 53539560 54409565 1.5 233
6 42721822 43792975 2.5 234
16 1791149 2728282 1.7 206
Largest segment = 2.5 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 5.7 cM

I don't appear to match either of my parents' DNA at the highest matching values, although they appear to match each other on their Chromosome 6.


Altai Neanderthal is the DNA that was extracted from a Neanderthal woman's toe bone.  She died in the Altai Mountains in Siberia at least 50,000 years ago.

Comparing (Christine) and F999902 (Altai Neanderthal)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
8 20182757 20819443 1.1 236
Largest segment = 1.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.1 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999902 (Altai Neanderthal)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 47888491 48685435 1.3 133
2 125902914 126798780 1.0 140
3 20411153 20945046 1.1 139
11 32474646 33371727 1.1 138
21 35719891 36198939 1.1 100
Largest segment = 1.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 5.6 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999902 (Altai Neanderthal)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
6 31529276 32743927 1.1 222
11 32249953 33344121 1.1 210
Largest segment = 1.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 2.2 cM

Like Palaeo-Eskimo above, I don't match my parents at the highest values, but they match each other on Chromosome 11.


Denosova is the DNA extracted from a little girl who died at least 30,000 years ago and died and/or was buried in the Denosova Cave in the Altai Mountains in Siberia.

Comparing (Christine) and F999903 (Denisova)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 155356065 156155492 1.1 109
7 68512715 69604128 1.3 112
8 20182757 20815206 1.0 233
Largest segment = 1.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 3.4 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999903 (Denisova)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
11 32474646 33347123 1.0 131
Largest segment = 1.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.0 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999903 (Denisova)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
6 31569945 32702306 1.0 213
Largest segment = 1.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.0 cM

None of us seemed to match each other on our highest values.


Linearbandkeramik (LBK) is a sample taken from the remains of a farmer (presumably a man, I can't get more detail) who died in the Stuttgart region about 7,500 years ago.  The German name refers to the Linear Band pottery culture.

Comparing (Christine) and F999916 (Linearbandkeramik)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 20882387 22912496 3.2 519
1 30050780 31476920 3.3 523
2 217867317 219949518 4.0 519
21 37042588 39041800 3.4 547
Largest segment = 4.0 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 13.8 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999916 (Linearbandkeramik)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM)          SNPs
2 217643676 219934637 4.5 555
Largest segment = 4.5 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 4.5 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999916 (Linearbandkeramik)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 700 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 350 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
13 79743931 85588528 3.5 1197
Largest segment = 3.5 cM
Total of segments > 3 cM = 3.5 cM

Since we're predominantly descended from people in Western Europe, it was no surprise that my parents and I are much closer to this ancient person.  I share some this match with my dad on our Chromosome 2.


La Brana-Arintero aka La Brana-1 is from a man who died or was buried about 7,000 years ago in Valdelugueros, León, Spain.  Unlike LBK, La Brana-1 was pre-agricultural, even though he was slightly later.

Comparing (Christine) and F999915 (La Brana-Arintero)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 63279983 64482048 1.8 205
2 52083107 53498109 1.2 231
2 190278589 192072958 1.9 214
4 89384761 92048466 3.4 276
8 50215053 52688107 1.5 213
9 9347877 10743557 2.5 291
10 109396783 110766205 1.0 205
10 112855667 114042907 1.1 218
12 20867979 21552775 1.2 250
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 15.6 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999915 (La Brana-Arintero)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 125 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 22557524 24487606 1.8 256
10 73379996 76482747 1.4 280
12 109031545 111722776 1.3 273
19 43427453 44691915 1.4 257
Largest segment = 1.8 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 6.0 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999915 (La Brana-Arintero)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 125 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 112836288 114332785 1.7 273
12 20766653 21754801 1.6 284
16 1461746 2820106 2.8 265
19 43449630 44951182 1.9 291
Largest segment = 2.8 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 8.1 cM

Again, since we are all of Western European ancestry, I expected to have a closer match like this than the first few ancient DNA samples.  My mom had the highest match.  Her ethnicity tests have always revealed a higher than expected amount of Iberian DNA, even though she has no recent Spanish ancestor (I suspect her French Huguenots from the 1600's).  I match her on Chromosome 10.  My dad has Chromosome 10 as well, but on a slightly different span.  Mom and I also share on Chromosome 12.


Mal'ta MA-1 is taken from the arm bone of a 4-year-old boy who died and was buried about 24,000 years ago near the village of Mal'ta, Siberia (near Lake Baikal).  It is considered a link between Europeans and Native Americans.

Comparing (Christine) and F999914 (Malta MA-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 350 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 175 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 95396719 97209165 1.4 386
Largest segment = 1.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.4 cM

Comparing (Dad) and F999914 (Malta MA-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 250 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 125 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
12 20776581 21463245 1.2 289
Largest segment = 1.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 1.2 cM

Comparing (Mom) and F999914 (Malta MA-1)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 300 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 150 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 81275213 84230757 1.3 303
10 95493749 97209165 1.3 367
12 21064601 21931308 1.3 318
Largest segment = 1.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 3.9 cM

I share Mal'ta on Chromosome 10 with my mother.  My parents share Chromosome 12, which I don't have at my highest level.






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